I lost a lot of respect for you Tim. 1. Ill have to try this to learn Spanish fluently. The fact is that babies do not find it difficult to learn a language while adults do. Cognates are true friends of words you recognize from your native language that mean the same thing in another language. Imitation is, after all, the most sincere form of flattery! Many languages also have words that share a common (Greek/Latin or other) root, which can be spelled slightly differently, but that youd have to try hard not to recognize, such as exemple, hlicoptre (Fr), porto, capitano (Italian) astronoma, and Saturno (Spanish). Hey, great article! I can't eat the apple. Its important to take an active role and make sure you are having varied conversations. Website For Tim Ferriss' 12 Sentences To Deconstruct A Ne - LingQ Thats what I was saying: as far as I can remember, you _speak_ Hany; you _study_ Zhongwen. I'm going to know tomorrow. Ive learned a little Vietnamese, Arabic, Cantonese and Urdu by doing that. Ill instagram my success this summer. I review a variety of programs and I have used many. Agreed! My daughter is fluent in both French and English too. I totally put this article to post on my social media and bookmarked it. I WANT TO #YOLO ON DIFFERENT CONTINENTS IN DIFFERENT LANGUAGES! Webnews. Ive made friends on a train in China through Mandarin, discussed politics with a desert dweller in Egyptian Arabic, discovered the wonders of deaf culture through ASL, invited the (female) president of Ireland to dance in Irish (Gaeilge) and talked about it on live Irish radio, interviewed Peruvian fabric makers about how they work in Quechua, interpreted between Hungarian and Portuguese at a social event and well, had an extremely interesting decade traveling the world. Today I watched your Skype interview with Benny and thought: how cool would it be to see some of his stuff on the blog. Lots of them. Just being exposed to input is not enough for you to acquire the language. WebI want to give it to her. The tips you gave are great and I cant wait to get started right now! They have to learn in on and at for their preposition en. Adults can be good language learners, but not better than children. If anything, you write in the traditional or simplified script. All the need is some input. It never gets old. Youll have to start reading newspapers, technical blog posts, or other articles that wont exactly be light reading.. There are some people who are auditory learners. Why not come up with a clever association like the following one I found on Memrise: This [caber -> cab, bear -> fitting a bear in a cab] association makes remembering the word a cinch. I studied Chinese for a year at university, and they discouraged us from using the term Mandarin at all. Its a biological endowment that we lose. Age and the Acquisition of English as a Foreign Language. (this book references tons of research on the critical period, especially in phonology and syntax), Lenneberg, E. (1967 ). Now I will continue in French for you: Jai suivi pendant 3ans des cours de Japonais au lyce et je dois dire que le professeur de Japonais que nous avions tait un peu djant car il nous disait quil fallait apprendre plusieurs langues en mme temps, que le Japonais tait trs simple, que le polynsien ltait encore plus et que au lieu dapprendre le Russe tout seul autant lapprendre avec un livre dans une autre langue (example livre Espagnol pour apprendre le Russe). Hope it will not come across as spammy;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB-bgMixT_s. Now Im excited to get started! I say, there are seven days in a week and some day is not one of them. Tim Ferriss Biography To hear the language consistently spoken, you can check out TuneIn.com for a vast selection of live-streamed radio from your country of choice. I will pass this on to my students and parents! 13 Golden Sentences to Learn Basic Korean Grammar Korean alphabets were created based on mouth shapes. One thing Benny left out, is the website http://www.lingq.com which is designed to quickly build up your vocabulary and reading/listening skills. However that I have to add that rules 2 and 5 dont work with Finnish, the language Im currently learning. It is the best app that you could possibly have on your phone. At about the 1 year mark I was pretty fluent. WebSome business school professor will probably be rude enough to bring up the fact that if 225 million orangutans had engaged in a similar exercise, the results would be much the same215 egotistical orangutans with 20 straight winning flips. Amazing resource for learn languages, there are a LOT of goog resources and also they are FREE! Garca Mayo, M.P. Also, Benny, Tim what do you think about InnovativeLanguages tools, like Chinese101, ThaiPod101 and others? I am a Dubliner by birth, shy as ever and I never learned a word of Gaelige properly in school in Ireland. Hon ger det till honom. 13 Golden Sentences to Learn Basic Korean Grammar - Medium Ich mchte es ihr geben. Ive been traveling South America since last October and my Spanish is not better than someones whos made an intensive effort for two weeks. The technical storage or access is necessary for the legitimate purpose of storing preferences that are not requested by the subscriber or user. S.M.A.R.T. You are quite impressive with your learning! And e.g. Your tongue muscles are not set in their ways forever, and you can learn the very few new sounds that your L2 requires that you learn. You can observe people directly, or watch videos of natives youd like to emulate from a target country. Another reason (or excuse, depending on how you look at it) people cite for not learning languages is that they cant visit a country where its a native language. Im definitely looking to applying these steps and reading your book! German goes a step further and has many words from Englishs past that it shares. Three months has worked great for me, but 6 weeks or 4 months could be your ideal point. The show highlights short life advice from the best in the wor OP has a valid point. Anki, as mentioned above. Truly listen to and and mimic audio from natives, have them correct your biggest mistakes and drill the mistakes out of you. You can even reference Google Translate or a dictionary for that language while you chat, so you can learn new words as you go, when you need them. Some of the computer-generated sentences are so absurd you cannot possibly forget them, and who knows, one day I may need to say I have a snake in my shoe in Italian. Examples include kommunikoida, priorisoida, politikoida. Aw shucks, thanks Aaron! Oh and great to know that Arabic and Thai scripts are fairly easy. 12 sentences is not enough to allow me to see the patterns. Ive been studying Chinese for some time and used this to jump start my communication compare this to a word Ive been asked to learn today for a class Im taking: acute enteritis! However, the real value of the "Fluent in 3 Months" challenges is probably more on the psychological side and less on the language side. Tim Ferriss was nearly 40 when he retrieved memories of child I am rather shocked you would publish anything from him. (Just wondering how easily Id learn to be good in Lithuanian if just by sitting in class for two months, 6 hours per week, got me able to converse with people about likes, dislikes, what weve done, where weve been and lived, what foods we like etc). Love the post Benny. Tip #2: As my father used to say, use it or lose it. At last my two people who inspired my language learning meet in one blog ^^. Sometimes I get the hand (as in talk to the hand), but usually women are willing to politely engage in whatever banter I open with. Its essential that you keep your priorities clear to avoid frustration. Ive always done better typing than speaking, even in my native language, can I go on Skype, Interpals, and other places, while still studying and type more than speak and still be successful? But other really cool previous experience is with Polish language. Told myself I want to visit Brazil and possibly travel a bit more this year so learning a new language is key. (I did that in 2012 and it has made all the difference). I made a website based on the concept. very uplifting. Has served me well. These things are not wanted here. If I wrote a paper in any of my fields (microbio, cognitive psych (yup, the people who study learning), and nursing) with sources that old, my bibliography would be covered in red marks, and my score would be a big fat red F. Hey Scott, youre on to a loser here. Of course, many people cite a bad memory for learning new vocab, so they quit before even getting started. Lets seeFrench, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, I wonder whats missing. Have a list of topics you would like to discuss and bring them up (your hobbies, hopes for the future, dislikes, what you will do on your vacation etc.) Realize that adults are actually better language learners than kids. available to get a feel for the basic variations of (morpho)syntactic patterns of an L2. has found that under the right circumstances, adults show an intuition for unexplained grammar rules better than their younger counterparts. We use cookies to help make LingQ better. The practice your weak skills feature is particularly useful to me. Excellent post! He'd been two years old. Focusing on speaking and listening (and maybe reading) makes fluency in a few months much more realistic. Both adults and kids have their own advantages. Spaced repetition is also popular learning system in med school where I live. And a separate issue lets say you become super-native-fluent in 25 languageshow are you going to find the time to use them all, other than to boast about it on a blog? Last year I read an intriguing article by the author and self-proclaimed life hacker Tim Ferris titled How to Learn (But Not Master) Any Language in 1 Hour. It is Johns apple. Et pas seulement avec les trangers mais avec les franais de la province aussi , Allez donc autre part en France, vous verrez quon est ravis de voir des trangers parler franais, mme sils ont du mal . Activating subtitles in your mother tongue (English for instance) is a really bad idea on the other hand, since you can get distracted and only read that. Regarding Benny, I for one feel that "Fluent in 3 Months," as gimmicky as it is, actually has some decent things going for it. I was using duolingua and other forums to connect to people, it helped a bit. None of whatever you guys are blahing about has anything to do with the fact that one cannot write Cantonese or Mandarin, because they are meant to be spoken. While a child learns any language instinctively, adults need to turn to their intelligence to learn the rules. This might seem like a wet blanket statement, but it didnt work for me. He claims to be fluent in "5 or 6 languages at any given time", but there is no evidence (footage) backing this up for even 1 language. It is Johns We give him the apple. Maybe that might be appropriate Mr. Lewis? Which it did . I love Noomi (or Naomi?) As a native Polish speaker I must say that you are awesome. The most common I give up misconception is:Im too old to become fluent. You dont have to go on Skype! Using these techniques I could read Thai in a matter of hours. Trust me, as a polyglot, focus on one, then focus on the other, waiting until you are at a confident conversational or fluent stage before moving on . Its because the system they have used to learn languages is broken. To get around this problem, I sat down at a busy pedestrian intersection with a pen and paper and made a note of everything that made Egyptian men about my age different from me. Sentences like 'I give John the apple' - to help learn grammar I put together a resource for deconstructing foreign language grammar using Tim Ferriss golden sentences method, that some of you might be familiar with. Then I will share something that is on my mind lately and attempt to express my opinion on it, or allow the native speaker to introduce a new topic. One of the best things you can do in the initial stages is not to try to get everything perfect, but to embrace making mistakes. 40 hours is just the tip of an iceberg and you will sink fast when you hit a read conversation. Sorry Mike, but that wouldnt be nearly as effective or rewarding as actually learning the target language. Thats the thing with Chinese, yes there are lots of characters to learn, but learning some particular ones will give you way more mileage than others. Looking for help translating 13 sentences. Bitte : German Aiming higher for a smaller number is always better. No joke, this was absolutely the best blog hell, best ANYTHING Ive read on language learning. I had many more hours than that before I got a tutor and I spent 30 minutes not understanding her, even when she repeated my own sentences back to me (with the grammar corrected). I never intend to comment on whether his methods of learning a language is valid, because I did not continue to read the article. Traditional teaching methods treat language learning just like any other academic subject, based on an approach that has barely changed since the days when Charles Dickens was learning Latin. This effectively means that you have social equivalency with your native language, which means that you can live in your target language insocial situations in much the same way that you would in your native language, such as casual chats with friends in a bar, asking what people did over the weekend, sharing your aspirations and relating to people. Definitely agree there! 16 best alternatives to Clozemaster as Ferriss jokes he has haters in about 35 languages.. Thank you so much for all the great materials that you put on your blog! I share several more stories about these polyglots and dive into much greater detail about how to learn languages in my newly released book Fluent in 3 Months. It seems logical enough, right? I have a love to help others needing to learn a language whether it is because they are displaced, in school or just needing the skills for work. Cuidate, Thank you, this is great. I find I understand the grammar much better once Im already speaking the language. Tim and Benny what an awesome combo you guys make . Use the pointers Ive given above to learn some basic vocabulary, and be aware of some words you already know. I am receiving individual emails each containing one comment on the 12 rules for learning language. (Thanks to Brian Oberkirch for the inspiration.). You guys are amazing. . And in the absence of such a freedom, to try recreate such and immersion at home actually could work. Same goes for Rosetta Stone. In learning the languages, I find it more difficult to understand the native speakers. I dont know any Finnish, but its considered in the same language family as Hungarian and I found a bunch of common words there, even though its not related to Indo-European languages. For instance, Romance languages like French, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, and others have many words in common with English. OK, the article that Benny referenced uses an experiment with children older than 8! . Various news stations also have plenty of video content online in specific languages, such as France24, Deutsche Welle, CNN Espaol, and many others. Tim Ferriss It most certainly does. Ive even picked that up belief myself it seems quite pervasive. We tend to have New Years Resolutions along the lines of Learn Spanish, but how do you know when youve succeeded? No problem! WebWith a million members of over 100+ different languages, HelloTalk helps the community learn any language through language partners. Thats all well and good for European languages, but what about more distant ones?. It is John's apple. The main page of lingq espouses: Learn like a child. Based on those and the context, I can often guess at what's being said/asked, but I still have the conversational ability of a toddler. Duolingo, which is great fun and seems to work despite breaking every principle of language pedagogy, particularly the one of making target language meaningful. I also failed Gaeilge miserably, but in my mid-20s went to the Gaeltacht for the first time to learn it properly and it wasnt bad at all. Just wanted to add that for example the first-rank American sinologist Victor Mair at Penn is against learning/teaching Hanji at the beginning: http://chronicle.com/blogs/linguafranca/2012/03/02/more-on-how-to-argue-for-foreign-language-instruction/, Its a tragedy that so many young Americans spend years stuffing their heads with hundreds of Chinese characters, gaining no usable proficiency, and then forgetting them all by the time theyre 25. Mair thinks that if the Chinese would wake up and permit pinyin to function as part of a genuine digraphia, then I would say it might make sense for maybe 2 percent of the population to learn up to third-year level of Mandarinstrictly romanized, mind you. Empathizing with Gulnara .. Chomsky actually said that saying that children learn language is incorrect. Tim Ferriss 13. Consider an L1 Spanish speaker learning English prepositions. Thanks for the inspiration. BIG THANK YOU TIM AND BENNY . Help! I went from zero to teaching high school physics in Spanish in two months, while living in Bolivia and Peru. For each language All the best and keep building great content. 4. But the good news is once you reach fluency in a language, it tends to stick with you pretty well. Benny is always the most outgoing guy at every conference Ive seen him at I think that (talking to EVERYONE, especially in a foreign country) helps a lot too! Where I fail is execution. I am interested in getting a Masters in linguistics myself, Im about to graduate with a bachelors in Asian studies. I saw Matt Frazier comment on this post and I know you are a vegetation, Im a vegan. It requires a little creativity at times but the best part is, if you get it wrong, you have something to laugh with people about . Rapace! They reblogged it on their teacher resources page! I was in Spain for 6 whole months speaking English all the time before I changed my approach, and look at me now! Thats how were gonna Great backing up of facts as well. Absolutely! The transformation was incredible! You can make these changes by focusing on the sounds of a language rather than just on the words. All of those sources are too old to even be used in research. Hopefully next time we meet it will be for more than a brief moment, but if it was after MY Marathon, Id be needing to chill out at home too! http://www.supermemo.com is is great resource on that. If anything it raises a smile if right or wrong. Most I think are in Chinese, as Taiwan is such a great country to live in. I was glad to read how you debunked the myths of learning a new language such as your tongue muscles are not set in their ways forever, and you can learn the very few new sounds that your L2 requires that you learn and Im too old to become fluent. Basically, you tell yourself a funny, silly, or otherwise memorable story to associate with a particular word. If you do decide to check out the site, I would really appreciate some feedback and suggestions. Everything is very cool. Really try to analyze everything that someone of your age and gender is doing, and see if you can mimic it next time you are speaking. Seriously Benny, you dont want to walk back this statement even slightly? Watching videos and movies subtitled in a targeted language is definitely an under utilized language learning method! Ive also made time while standing in lines or waiting for people or on public transport, to squeeze in more language studying. P.S.One big advantage in Finnish over other languages is how easily you can make new words. A good place to start could be Krashen et al. Con Translations are sometimes inaccurate He was driving towards towards us, and we would meet at some gas station. I too like to first learn the flow of the language before learning any grammatical rules. That being said, reading Benny's blog years ago gave me the confidence to try Spanish again and now I am serious about learning Polish. I agree with Scotts comment. WebI made a website with native speaker translations and recordings of the author Tim Ferriss 12 Sentences for language learning. Great breakdown Benny. I was wondering if it is possible and would you recommend learning two languages at the same time? Younger children will achieve close to mastery and adults will not. I did something similar for Arabic. This is one of the best posts on this blog yet! Great article! Perhaps I should have chosen Spanish. The nice thing is, you really dont need any background in the language at all, so you could start doing this immediately. I found that I needed to let some stubble grow out, ditch my bright light clothes for darker and heavy ones (despite the temperature), exchange my trainers for dull black shoes, ditch my hat (I never saw anyone with hats), walk much more confidently, and change my facial expressions. At C2, you are as good as a native speaker in how you can work and interact in the language, but you may still have an accent and make the odd mistake. Tim Ferris' '12 Golden Sentences' have become a staple in many language learners' 'go to' tool kit when approaching a new language. He gives it to John. There are loads of online communities were you can practise your language skills by writing. The differences between your native language (L1) and your target language (L2) are presented as vocabulary and grammar rules to memorize. Can speak it decently, but listening .. sometimes, cant understand a word thats being said to me (usually in person), other times, catching it perfectly (usually watching on TV). It is Johns Best wishes, Belinda (Australia). The way I reach spoken fluency quickly is to get a hell of a lot of spoken practice. I also found youtube quite helpful! Just trying to make a common mistake not so common anymore. I got to more or less fluency level within 3 months. No, this is just a very basic conversation that can give learners a boost on their language learning journey. Your approach will depend entirely on your personality. Its easy to say that Im too white to ever be confused for an Egyptian, but theres more to it than that. You are either born with the language-learning gene, or you arent. I agree that nothing beats being immersed in the culture, but you can emulate that experience online, even if its not AS good as the real thing. But, when you are a kid you can be a quick learner as well . 13 sentences to speak any language (not) - Learn Italian Its a really good look into how we learn, and how to teach preposition, using cognitive linguistics. The color pops, and Ive received a You wouldnt want to present falsities in a blog that is supposed to affect peoples lives in the real world. Then we might text back and forth developing my kanji reading and basic writing skills. Matt will help you out a lot. Well, it turns out that even languages as different as Japanese can have heaps of very familiar vocabulary. I spent 9 months in classes and with private teachers learning in the tradition school way and barely a few words stayed in my head. Running this way will help you out tremendously, I promise. A better word is that language grows, meaning that children learn languages whether they want to or not. Your 12 points are right on. Please understand, Im not saying Tim and Bennys method doesnt work. Get your facts straight before you correct someone. whats trending on Youtube in that country right now. ), and in Mandarin with my friend Yangyang about how she got into working as a TV show host: At this level, I still make plenty of mistakes of course, but they dont hinder communication too much. That is so awesome. When you repeat sentences in your L2, you have to mimic the musicality of them. Im not ready yet, because I havent learned the entire language). Movies/T.V. The short version is, I reached out to people like Benny for advice and everyone kept saying that I needed to do more. Aiming for a solid C1 in two or three languages or going for more languages while aiming a bit lower at B2?
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