And Ive never cleaned my 10/22 mags. First, the left side of the follower must sit low enough to properly engage the slide lock when the magazine is empty. It fits perfectly and its easy to keep the tensioning wall square with just a little care. For the ones that do manage to chamber, the sound is present on the first round or two, and often absent on subsequent rounds. It may be best to check the extractor tension first, since there is no cost involved. Even there magazines are still a very high number 2. . . I have a rock island armory rock ultra fs in 10 mm it rarely feeds flawlessly on the reload and shoves the bullet into the feed ramp and jams what can I do to fix this issue? Because those Ruger rotary magazines are SOooooo reliable . This is where the extractor doesnt catch the round and the gun does not go into battery. Once activated, you'll be able to login and comment on articles. Thread: Intermittent Failure to Feed Last Round, "Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you." We'll send you a personalized email containing articles in the categories you've chosen. BrianEnos.com . If you're about to stir the pot, you better be prepared to lick the spoon. . So far its been about 20 mags to every one spring or load issue. He has little 1911 experience. Ive tried mags from multiple sources. Ill shoot them in a 10/22 but not my Buckmark, cause those mags. Another FTF from a red dot mag earns a trip to the garbage can (or back to the supplier if its relatively new). The trade off being that if you DO manage to bend the feed lips theres a high chance youll snap them if you try to bend them back at room temperature. If it's wrong, it's wrong. I havent seen that perfect of a combination in any other mag. That is the question.. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. And there's no reason two different magazines coudn't both have weak springs. This feature is critical to the magazines reliability. I have to manually pull the slide back and eject the round. the only problem with 1911 not reliable., is other people making them and thinking they know how to better make them than colt. In some situations (depending on firearm, ammunition, etc), this could lead to failures beyond those experienced on the last round. Then, I remembered why I replaced the rear coil springs under an old pickup of mine, as the originals were collapsed. If I were an unscrupulous SOB, I could invent some cock-n-bull story that they have an issue with their barrel, chamber or action, and that I need to do lots of work to their gun to make it feed. These instances are fairly rare, though. We cannot legitimately complain about anti-gunners not knowing the nomenclature if we dont either. Previously was using Grams springs and follower. With the barrel rampaka throattheres more wiggle room as long as the bottom edge of the barrel ramp is sitting slightly forward of the top of the feed rampand even if that gap isnt theremany pistols with the optimum feed ramp will feed hardball without a hitch. Still have Failures to Feed?For all those with 1911 feeding problems (with hollowpoints, semi-wadcutters or flat-nosed bullets), this video may help you narrow down the cause.When testing semi-wadcutters, I encountered failures to feed. Hey Dyspeptic Gunsmith, I suspected several probable causes: feed ramp, ammo or magazine.Credit goes to Mr. Ernie Claudio (the 1911 doctor) for helping discover the cause of the feeding problem.Shout out to Chip McCormick magazines! And thats where Dremel Dans Double Throwdown RampnThroat job brings the tears of regret. I did once, but didnt have the cajones to ask the guy what it might have been Some weird, pasty concoction full of pocket lint and unburned powder. 1911's commonly struggle with last round feeding issues. Mags are always a problem. Listen to the magazine arguments with gun owners and wonder no longer. What if your guns have cylinders instead of magazines? It won't be very long term at all. This one is sneaky. Many manufacturers replace worn mags!! As soon as someone says \"my new budget/mid-range 1911 is having a feeding issue\" the answer is always 'throw away those mags and buy Wilson Combat magazines!'. Also, failures to go to or return to battery differ a little. Purchased 4 firearms in the last 2 . Regardless, I always inspect and clean them when necessary. This is where the slide out runs the magazine, meaning the round doesnt get pushed up in time to meet the slide. Pheasant survey predicts a repeat of last year's excellent hunting for most of Iowa . With the ghostly invisibility and the power to control minds from a distance. are hard to clean effectively. Cut the wall with the cutting edgechecking the deflection with each cut on the first attempt. Wtf you talking bout? Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Love both of my Colt ARs, Your email address will not be published. Is this simply a worn spring issue? Just returned from a four day defensive pistol class at Front Sight in Pahrump, NV where I experienced numerous intermittent failure to feed malfunctions throughout the class. Who makes the best aftermarket reproduction mags? 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It also deadens primers in sufficient quantity, and will creep past bullet crimps to effectively lubricate the powder within. I love my old DCM 1911, It doesnt like new wimpy cheap magazines, [] called a Live Round Stovepipe (source: rangehot.com) failure, a BOB happens when the cartridge fails to reach the feeding position for the [], Your email address will not be published. My S&W Koenig model had this problem for a while. I know some last round problems can be fixed using John Browning's magazine follower with a dimple. I can pull the slide back a little bit, let go, and the round will slide right into the barrel with no effort. It will start up the ramp but the slide won't continue into battery the last 1/4". I got stuck with 3 standing reloads. If your semi-automatic firearm is having reliability issues, the first thing to check is your detachable magazines. Or any other part of a gun. Whenever I get a FTF, I immediately remove and unload the mag (because the cause is darn near always the mag). This mainly was an issue in a match with multiple 20 round stages. Then I remembered throwing a weight and realizing it hit the lip. 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I had 2 mags (rescomp rings a bell) with Bowlen guts and pads that gave me 21 or 22 rounds. This description raises more questions than it answers - to me, at least. I then load it with defensive ammo and only shoot it when I change out my carry ammo. I have a bunch of those, 8 rounders in .45ACP, that I used before I retired from competition. Theyve taken that for half of a lifetime now, and all six still work perfectly. The one on the right came with my ATI FX 1911, a Shooters Arms pistol. The 8 round mags are usually the ones with the smooth followers. Hi-Point 3095, the first carbine in 30 Super Carry. A few years ago, a friend was having trouble with a very new pistol (I dont remember the brand or model). Letting the slide fly free produces no feeding issues with either magazine. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Im having a hell of a time getting the magazine into my daughters Crickett .22 rifle. 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The bullet is crashing into the feed ramp as it is fed from the magazine. You recommend an ISMI spring instead? Clearing the malfunction requires magazine removal. Long-term damage to the barrel lug corners also shows up. In each case the round was just laying on top of the mag with 2 ftrtb and 2 slide stop engaged. Although these days I have a couple 21rnd (not reloadable) gen 2 sti mags. check out the. Im having FTRTB issues where the round nosedives up typically on the last round of the mag. Another common failure is called a push feed. We look forward to providing content that engages you and keeps you coming back for more. We always deliver the best content right to you. If that angle is right, the gun will usually run fine unless the barrel ramp angle is way too steep. If all is within spec mechanically, the pistol will tolerate a surprising amount of tension without causing a problem. . I had one failure to feed with the HPR Hyperclean. Greg K. 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Wilson Combat makes great replacement parts for a wide range of 1911 mags. Its less offensive cousin is an extractor that needs frequent retensioning should the claw climb the rim and snap over. And this is why you(at least I do) carry a spare or twobecause mag failures happen. How often do you replace yours? GunnerSouthPAS 3.1K subscribers Subscribe 328 16K views 1 year ago #1911 #SpringfieldArmory #Colt. I can reinsert the mag, release the slide and it will chamber and fire the same exact round just fine. These days its caveat emptor. Then he said, The manual strongly recommends that you always drop the slide on a loaded mag. It can also be caused by the ramp being positioned too close to the rear wall of the magwell. All tilt-barrel locked breech pistols operate with some degree of stem bind. Then, lightly radius the bottom and top corners of the hook, so that looking at it from the front of the gunit takes on the shape of a D. Back to the frame ramp angle and the accursed 3-Point Jam. To demonstrate this, I can induce a feeding malfunction by 'riding the slide' with the Tripps, but not with the Wilsons. Please enter your username or email address.You will receive a link to create a new password via email. The #2 reason to carry a reload. In this one, the slide catches the case further forward, and actually rids over the top of it. The last thing to check is if the bullet is out of spec. if made properly to the original specs from colt and browning, they will work always period. Usually not, 22s are nasty, we shoot them by the thousands and never think about the crap that builds up in the magazines. Some of their (carry?) in .22LR magazines like the 10/22), people are almost always amazed. In 1911s, I mean. Thanks. The Stove Pipe(stovepipe malfunction) is almost always a magazine issue. Very accurate and great trigger. It just breaks. WD40 is NOT a solvent, nor is it much of a lubricant. The point in my gun education where I finally realized this was back in the early 90s. Id plink with it at ranges; the accuracy was ho-hum, but it was a fun little plinker to shoot. Your email address will not be published. Here is another common complaint, and its also straight up a magazine problem. And they pass mag guage. He correctly pointed out that a semi-automatic handguns most common failure point is the magazines youre using to run it. Contact support@internationalsportsman.com for help. I see this one a lot with smooth magazine followersusually the 8-round sticks. I could be making hundreds of dollars per magazine-issue case that comes through the door. If this side sat as high as the right, the magazine would lock the slide with a round still left to be chambered. The slide very often cant be pushed or bumped to batterybut not always. I bet they have loads of them. For sure try some different ammo. Proudly powered by WordPress Cause could be too much tension or part of the ejector catching. 1911-style Pistols Last round feeding failure Last round feeding failure By lroy March 11, 2021 in 1911-style Pistols Start new topic lroy Classifieds 324 Gender:Male Posted March 11, 2021 Recently had an issue where my match mags consistently failed to feed on the 20th round. Cleaning is an often-neglected part of firearm maintenance. M1 Carbine reproduction about two years ago. Some people just never get it. Powered by Invision Community. Second Media Inc., 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. I'm thinking it's the ammo, factory .45 ACP Federal American Eagle bulk packed, but it feeds fine in my other 1911's including a S & W 1911sc. 1911s used to be hand fit and the extractor is one of those things that doesn't scale well at mass production especially in budget minded 1911s.#1911 #Tisas #Colt #Kimber #SpringfieldArmory 1911 Extractor Diagnosis. This is also usually from a soft magazine spring. In those days, I owned a Winchester M1 Carbine. Check the daily deals, up to 40% off! Palmetto State Armorys Daily Deals aim to provide our customers with new products and best sellers at amazing prices. Daily Deal product offerings include PSAs American Made firearms, AR-15 parts and accessories, 9mm pistols, bulk ammo, magazines, o, Be part of the International Sportsman community. Huh, never would have checked there, Maybe its the 300 rd per second clipazine that goes up? That might be the wax on cheap bulk-pack .22lr. I'm not sure your problem is caused by it but the dimple is to keep the last round from jumping forward of the extractor due to inertia. You think the inner city junkies get radical over a little dope? Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Is this simply a worn spring issue? On 3/20/2021 at 8:28 AM, RangerTrace said. It doesnt leave any residue. The feed ramp angle is critical. I purchased a Rock Island 1911 a couple of weeks ago and find it to be very accurate and easy to handle. I personally have learned more in depth knowledge of the workings of my favorite handgun by reading and paying attention to Johns words than I have learned in a lifetime of shooting JMBs masterpiece. Whenever you experience a failure to feed or return to battery, look for horses instead of Zebras. But where was the manufacturers QC? Not hadnt been milled deeply enough, hadnt been milled at all! An information security professional by day and gun blogger by night, Nathan started his firearms journey at 16 years old as a collector of C&R rifles. Get new springs ( +10%, if they have them.). Pretty consistently having problems with the last round not feeding especially with the factory magazine. Your email address will not be published. | But what happens when it doesnt? Save yourself time, aggravation, and money by buying quality magazines and maintaining the ones you already own. It can, and sometimes does, hang up the last rounds rim. The shorter, usually softer springs typical in these magazines are no help. I asked him if they had a really steep feed ramp. . On my Ruger, there was a burr on the lower edge of the ejector. ", if it dont start with a 4, dont go to war. Im always surprised at the number of folks that dont know that all magazines can be easily cleaned. And it runs. Especially after all of the hype. So I'm a bit confused. In my experience most failure to feed issues are an improperly tensioned (too much) extractor. As the title suggests I'm having problems with the last round of the magazine not feeding properly in a 5" S & W 1911 e series. 4.1K views, 50 likes, 28 loves, 154 comments, 48 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from 7th District AME Church: Thursday Morning Opening Session The tip to wall distance should be .035-.038 inch with .032 as an absolute minimum. Just another reason Colt declared bankruptcy. Gunsmithing, Troubleshooting & Refinishing, If this is your first visit, be sure to Mike. . Sometimes the push-feed malfunction is caused by a too-early cartridge release. Take note of that Chip McCormick compared to the Remington mag. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4QMVJE7bJY 19 re loadable 20 start. Thanks ! The remaining few causes are due to the extractor and/or the ammunition, with only about 1% attributable to the gun. Shortened steel followers arent kept as stable in the tubes as the standard 7-round followers, and accomplish the same thing as the incorrect angle when they rock to and fro in the tubes. I left one full for years and the other one empty for one firearm and the spring that was compressed for years failed and caused jamming when I finally decided to do some teaching, etc. Factory ammo? I have a S&W 1911 that has recently been failing to feed. What you are talking about is the 300 rd per second clipazine with a thingy that goes up in the back. Most often, thoughit pushes the bullet nose hard into the lower part of the feed ramp, and gouges the caseoften tying the gun up solidly. Also for use in McCormick/Shooting Star 8/7 round magazines. Favorite bad mag story: Was at a range once where a guy was trying to shoot a brand new Kimber, kept failing. Ill probably still buy their AR-15s though. "Think you used enough dynamite there Butch? If were to hickup then it gets replace becomes a range magazine. Question #1 - Magazine cleaning. I just ordered a Vickers Duty mag from Wilson combat. Oh, and my favorite: Ive been using those magazines just fine for the last 40 years!, Yea, thats my favorite. This is a foible that can tarnish otherwise fantastic shooting experiences with these 1911s. Throated barrel? My gun is jamming.. Any cleaning? Branson, Missouri; A Sportsmans Paradise with World-Class Entertainment! Its a nasty concoction of petroleum residues and byproducts and waxes dissolved and suspended in more petroleum byproducts, and then stuck in a spray can. But if you have it happen on the last round, check the follower. We've sent you email with a verification link. 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